Consult someone who is trained in tsuka-maki if you need to have a handle re-built. The metal of the scabbard has the patina of old iron. Free shipping. most certainly mean the blade is handmade. Usually the copies are considerably lower, making it very obvious. Does the blade show a true temper line (hamon)? I do not think they will be able to make a perfect fake as there are too many small details right down to the materials used. Here is my last IJA type 95 copper handle nco sword the I own. is signed, that it must be hand made. But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. Hi I'm a newly signed up member of the site. "Ninja swords" are a Hollywood fiction. Please see our. is just ridiculous.They HAVE genuine ones to copy. Brass hilt. They are unfortunately getting pretty good now. by differential tempering of the blade. Most handmade can be. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. Short fuller. Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords Fakes never get it right. It will have shrunk and is likely frayed and worn. It sounds to me like he was indeed a 3rd party procuring items. You can post now and register later. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. Japanese WWII Type 95 NCO Sword. As we have a grater passion for and preservation in mind rather then profits as a dealer does. So many repros use Phillips or combination screws, especially on the saya. Sorry Its not even a good fake. The overall length is approximately 38 inches in the scabbard. Overall a very nice condition WW2 Type 95 NCO Katana that will appreciate in value over the coming years. Bruce has politely written exactly what my reply would have been. Steel is magnetic - aluminum is not. DO NOT UNWRAP THE HANDLE! real, good condition, price is abit high. tourist momentos that are commonly thought to be some special type of Japanese sword. Required fields are marked *. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I admit that I've had to look at it a couple of times. The hilt paint is only about 30%, but still shows much of the yellow accent paint. All the best. They are referred to as "hocho tetsu" (kitchen steel) - a most derogatory term in sword circles. I use it to post different and new varieties of fake 95s. General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. See how many more you can pick! Today I checked, just in case the sword was pulled from sale, and lo and behold there is a 'rare copper handle' now listed, clearly of the same manufacturer. . If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. This thread is quite old. This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. And with the wrong type stamps. Have always thought the comments about not tipping off the forgers are just plain silly.I still do.The image of some rough factory in China where they are turning these outand some guy on a computer somewhere shouting out in Chinese into the factory "Hey guys! All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2023 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. Not just Gunto but Napoleonic ,K98 bayonets you name itSo look out in the future ! IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. All NCO swords were numbered. But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. WWII JAPANESE TYPE 98 ARMY SHIN-GUNTO SWORD!!! The position of the number on the blade, configured to be read with the cutting edge down, identifies the sword as having been produced by the Tokyo Arsenal (The only other source for the Type 95 sword was the Nagoya arsenal, which impressed the number on the blade in such a way that it is read with the cutting edge facing up). The aluminium hilt / tsuka has good amounts of its / scabbard has quite a bit of its original war time browning and Agree with others had to study it for a bit, since it is not an obvious reproduction - but at the end of the day, it has issues! Shamsy What a bunch of junk. Some older (Shinshinto) Please see our. The fuller on a real T95 goes almost to the habaki (collar), the brass part around the blade just above the tsuba/guard. the market. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. There are also numerous reproduction and fake Japanese swords on As originally produced the saber included a leather finger loop inside of the guard, which was riveted to the basket guard. WW2. They don't need to read the NMB daily to see if there are any tips. Used In good condition! Is the tang (nakago) signed? You can't sell weapons on ebay.de it is forbidden and ebay close your account. Grain does not determine age. National Guard Marksmanship Training Center. It is something I very much dread, having to carefully vet every sword I see, but that's what happens when something increases in value at a steady rate each and every year. Look at the bohi at the kissaki and the arsenal marks are terrible! Yes, those are strangely too perfect and not a recognized font. Can anyone tell me more about the sword than a cursory googling has resulted? Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. The first question to be answered - is it a real sword or a modern replica or an All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. But as I have been at this for a while, I'm seeing how much better the reproductions are getting, and I realize that every bit of help they can get by reading posts like this, helps them make their fakes even better. It comes with the original bag it came home from the war in. 4x 3 Inch Rubber Casters Heavy Duty Safety Brake Wheels For Wire Shelving Rack, Lenovo IdeaPad 3 14" FHD Laptop Intel Core i7-1165G7 8GB RAM 512GB SSD, Chrome Mirror Vinyl Film Wrap Sticker Decal Stretchable Reflective Super Gloss, DEWALT DCCS620B 20V MAX Cordless Li-Ion 12 in. I'm reposting the pictures of the fake pattern 5 that Stegel provided in the wooden handled topic just to have them all together. I can't get over the prices on these nowadays.. crazy, https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-WWII-Japanese-NCO-OFFICERS-SWORD-WITH-MATCHING-NUMBERS/253234351978?hash=item3af5f18f6a:g:wxsAAOSwAHtZ94Dm. If the blade is not sharp all the way to the habaki does not assure it is a WW II era blade, but is the mounts can be interesting with hidden, spring loaded, pop out guards. Your previous content has been restored. These are simply paper spacers to aid in positioning the wrapping properly on the handle. Eligible for all payments - Visa, Mastercard, Discover, AMEX, Paypal, Amazon & Sezzle. Authorized for production in 1935, the Type 95, commonly referred to as the NCO sword was all-machine made unlike the more expensive and higher-quality Officers sword. I agree. World War 2 Historian, Relic Hunter and expert in identification of WW2 relics. The type and color of the rust is used to help date and to authenticate the blade. Paste as plain text instead, Benefits CHARITY. It's also really interesting that it looks like the original serial numbers on the scabbard and blade matched before they were ground. It's also really interesting that it looks like the original serial numbers on the scabbard and blade matched before they were ground. View cart for details. But it would really help to see that. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. I'm not going to go into details. I very much doubt that it would matter, but even someone with a repro would be able to use that information to create a fake. Grain (hada) is sometimes difficult for beginners to recognize. No habaki. . I just want an accurate reproduction. I am not sure why the serial numbers are covered? Is the blade sharpened all the way to the base where it joins the hilt? Cut-out version brass tsuba. I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. After that I heard nothing. The scabbard is painted the correct green color, and the spacing from the top to the hanging ring is the correct 3 inches. You can post now and register later. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. Most of the Gun News That is Fit to Print! There is no historical documentation that ninja used swords which were of a special design or differed from those used by other Japanese of the period. IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. lonely panet. You cannot paste images directly. Free shipping for many products! The early serial number shows this sword saw service throughout By There should be no characters etched on the blade, just a serial number. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off I sent the seller a message. / full sized images available upon request. Etchings. The collctors in China can spot the fake easily as well,and they pay more than us to get the real ones. Older swords will have more rusted tangs, ranging from brown to smooth deep black rust for the oldest swords. Of the eight army arsenals active in the war only Kokura, Tokyo First and Nagoya were involved in the Type 95 program. Unfortunately have to agree with Brian, as prices move upwards, the copies will inevitably get better. Here is my last IJA type 95 copper handle nco sword the I own. You might also visit the Ohmura site and study the pictures there. Didn't want to explain to much, because that sword copys get better and better. When in doubt, check the blade with a magnet. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The members here in the board who collect these swords are taking a very good investment for the future. This was a tough one! Description. Steves last post real or copy? Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. Japanese WWll Army officer`s sword in mountings, Mantetsu made "Shigefusa", 1939, " MOTOHARA BLADES SGT-" JAPANESE SWORD/TAMESHIGIRI/KATANA/IAIDO, 40" White Dragon SAMURAI NINJA Bushido KATANA Japanese Sword Carbon Steel Blade, 1095 Clay Tempered Hand Forged Folded Damascus Carbon Steel Full Tang, Katana Sword Clay Tempered T10 Steel Choji Hamon Brass Tsuba Japanese Samurai, Leave feedback about your eBay search experience - opens in new window or tab. Check the military sword page for examples of WW II era well it would have fooled me, how about you other gunto guys? Celebrating the Past, Present and Future of Navy Cryptology, Official site for National Guard marksmanship training & competitions. There are a bunch more issues with the sword, so if anyone wants to test their detective skills this is a good opportunity. Identifying the Best Training, Tools, and Tactics for the Armed Civilian! I forgot to point out that inside the scabbard there are wooden inserts. - all carved and NCO Katanas were issued to soldiers who did not want to take their family sword to battle or who came from poor families that did not have swords to pass down through the generations. Pasted as rich text. this rare early solid copper handled sword, serial number 631 is all matching and it is also one of the very few known to exist that still has the original leather tassel hanger (saru-te). Eligible for all payments - Visa, Mastercard, Discover, AMEX, Paypal, Amazon & Sezzle. 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The blades are very straight and thin and often have significant flaws. Scabbard retains around 70% of the original paint. The reverse is also not true - if a sword is not signed does not mean it is machine made. Some of these bone swords will have very low grade metal mountings, commonly with the Tokugawa mon incised into or embossed on the mountings. good condition, a few small patina streaks, nothing much, and firm The saya/scabbard number should be on the top of the scabbard, where it's covered when the sword is sheathed. June 23, 2016 in Military Swords of Japan. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. more then I would pay but I'm grinch, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WW2-Japanese-Type-95-NCO-Sword/222687760837?hash=item33d93991c5:g:KZAAAOSwIJlZ6-vP, another version, price is abit high but a honest piece, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-WW2-Japanese-Shin-Gunto-NCO-Samurai-Sword-extremely-rare-variation-3/332424959489?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D48795%26meid%3D4f20fff958304da4af55f1ba88fb7e90%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D222687760837&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851. Wayne i would have called bad on it, think F&G early book had balls that big, remember two diff stacked ball stamp, or not, memory, lol, i jest. Based on my research the sword meets all the criteria of an authentic WWII Shin-Gunto Type 95 with one exception which is confusing me. There are stories that the small papers between the handle wrap (ito) and It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. Matching serial numbers 31123. You may severely injure yourself and/or damage the sword. Blade is 26.25 inches long, with an overall length of 36.25 inches. I din't know why the NCO swords are asked so strong. Given the large jump in value that NCO swords have experienced in the last few years and given how relatively easy it is to copy something that is cast and milled without a lot of hand work involved, I think it is only a matter of time, and not much time at that, before the fakes are indistinguishable from the real thing. This product is available for international shipping. - it will reduce its value by at least 50 percent!! Guaranteed authentic: A WW2 Type 95 Japanese army The detail that troubles me is the saya suspension ring being in the right place. It has the correct arsenal markings on the hilt collar (fuchi) and blade, and the spacers (seppa) are cast and rounded, while the replicas are crudely cut. Mauser 99 in post 15 look to the scabbard throat and you should see the brass sleeve visible.Also with the MountCastle example the paint still looked fresh in the overly large fake serial number on the throat..Shame really because the one that is on the site with a painted hilt but marked sold is a real one,and nice too ! The one thing that always sets off alarms on these is the tsuka almost looks blurred or sandblasted, the real NCO's are usually crisp and bold and well defined. Upload or insert images from URL. Please quote item reference S72 (0690). The saya Blade is 26 1/4 inches long, with an overall length of 36 1/4inches. Something went wrong. Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" ( - shin guntou) style. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. Cheers to Dan for bringing it to my attention. Murasame Katana L6 Steel Hand Forged Steel. WW II era swords will show prominent grain (hada). The scabbards and hilts are usually designed to resemble bamboo or old wood sticks. Clear editor. I agree, once they start nailing the kissaki and proper proportions it will be a minefield out there. Funny story Paul. I thought it would be a good idea to post a few old pictures of mine where I highlighted the considerable differences between Type 95 swords. WWII Japanese Army Type 95 Tokyo Arsenal NCO Shin-Gunto Sword $ 895.00 A World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword on which the sword blade and scabbard both have matching serial numbers. of no interest to Nihonto collectors other than perhaps as an example of how poorly made a blade The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. Rarely is a high quality blade found in sword cane mounts; however, some of As I said in the other NCO topic. original copper coloured paint and is in very good shape. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The scabbard exhibits about 70% of its original olive brown. There are genuine collectors throughout China too. It's hard to really pin down, just doesn't sit right with the eye. Most WW II era blades are not sharpened all the down to the habaki (collar). That's why I addressed here. This scabbard also has an original leather field cover, which has discolored and shrunk over time. And even if your intentions are completely legitimate, the "bad guys" are still out there and could read this post. If the swords are getting this good I think that's not a good idea. Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). A great early war example at a low price; yours for ? I need attribution not for sale, but for museum exhibit. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. I figured it might be useful to others. The blade is quite bright and, while there are some scratches and spots, there are no cracks, chips, or rust. (too So all of these swords are offered on egun.de, schwertshop.de and other german sellers. or old wood sticks. The condition of this sword is very good, with only some light surface staining on the blade. The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people, like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. 20062021 Nihonto Message Board Vice versa, antique blades are occassionally found These items are purchased for the quality of the carving only. Also, the tang on this is full length, with two holes. The process of tsuka-maki (handle wrapping) is quite complicated. the rayskin (same') are prayer papers to protect the soldier in battle. Neil. The condition of this sword is very good, with only some light surface staining. This would fool most entry level guys. Japanese WWII swords are amongst the most copied/faked of all swords and prospective buyers should beware. Powered by Invision Community. painted wood figures. This one really annoys me. The serial number should be near the bottom of the blade, just above the habaki. This is why the education side of collecting is so important!! Many people tend to believe that if a sword Most swords do not . Katana | HEAVY Cutter For HEAVY Targets. Original Item: Only One Available. The seppa is a clear fake, and like everyone else said, the bo-hi starts too far down the blade and the tip is round (like a Nagoya). Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" (shin guntou) style. During the WW II era, many machine made blades The sad part is someone probably will buy one of them too. Carved bone and carved ivory sword mountings almost always have untempered, soft steel blades. Replica swords and many They sell it for 165 EUR everywhere. Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). The sword sheathes and draws very well, and the Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. The copper ferrule has three stamps . It comes with the original bag it came home from the war in. Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) Type 95 NCO Shin Gunto.

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