and our Turn off historical and hope they form little entente. Interactive corporate website, Can declare war on country of the same ideology group without a war goal, No National Spirit. After my last Vichy post Spain (Who was in the allies) had the bright idea of declaring war on me. The greeks and the turks joined the Axis and the polish finally annexed Romania and put troops all over my border and sent the ultimatum i accepted it because I did not want to be crushed. Faction: Neutral. If this happens, France is given the option of collaborating with the Germans (which will create Vichy France if the Germans approve), continuing the fight regardless or proposing a union with Britain (which . In some edge cases, for example if the UK goes non-historical, the legitimate democractic allies faction leader may shift to another nation (such as Canada). In the wake of the French armistice with Germany and establishment of a new government in Vichy France, a group of senior officers have rebelled against the new French government. They will eventually join the allies by 1941-42 if youre playing historical AI. Nationalist Spain. ohhhh I didnt know that about how theyll join an opposing faction. If this happens, France is given the option of collaborating with the Germans (which will create Vichy France if the Germans approve), continuing the fight regardless or proposing a union with Britain (which will create the Franco-British Union if both sides approve). By default, they can only intervene on the side of the Republicans, but should they change ideologies, France can instead opt to intervene on the side of the Nationalists, the Carlists, the Falangists, or the Communists. HOWEVER, if the "GER_has_started_war" flag has been set, Britain and France will always back up Czechoslovakia off of historical. They also have focuses to form their own faction with Czechoslovakia and invite Yugoslavia and Romania to form the Little Entente - if they do form the Little Entente, they can also take additional focuses to invite the United Kingdom and Poland to the Entente. In the following months, the French government was extensively reorganized. So I embarked on a five year mission of destroying every allied nation. Germany and the USSR did sign the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, but neither side . All rights reserved. Their heartland in Europe is rich; almost half of Africa is under their control, and they have colonies in Indochina, Syria, and Guyana, not to mention direct control of islands in all the oceans of the world. Most workers have now realized that their unreasonable demands will not be met. France both borders the Mediterranean Sea to the south, the English channel to the Northwest and the Bay of Biscay to the west. Join The Largest Art Community In The World. The state of French politics is far from stable. An armistice with Germany at this point is inevitable. But then the turkey player kicked Greece out of faction so the does not end. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. In almost all my games USA always joins the allies by early 1941, but in my last germany playthrough it joined in 1942, so it depends on what historical path USA chooses or if Japan declares war on them soon. Went and took out british Raj next to free up my eastrn allies. \daddystalin WT also decreases over time, soif you aren't at war with the allies, waiting is always an option. As France, have at least 150 Destroyers and research the maximum torpedo launcher technology, before 1945. Feel that something is missing in this article? We can but pray there is light at the end of the tunnel. On April 1st, 1937, with WT at 28%, well below the 50% threshold for them to autojoin the allies and almost 7 months before they could join by focus.they out of nowhere join the allies, dragging the UK into my war. Vichy France will gain control of a portion of the French forces but it is not possible to predict what divisions Vichy France will get. On top of that, the French military leadership is made up of old guards who are inexperienced with modern warfare and dangerously complacent regarding the intentions of their enemies. In terms of technology, France has a good head start on mechanized, motorized and tank forces with only a little catch-up for infantry weapons. This page was last edited on 31 July 2022, at 13:58. As recent events in Paris had an impact on most of us, it is more important than ever that we come together as a nation. While reforms are needed and welcome, the nation is divided and getting drawn into a conflict would put it at great risk. However, Yugoslavia is one of the three pillars on which the Eastern European settlement is built. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. But that also depends on world tension and the situation of the game. Luxembourg is one of the minor nations in HOI4. After my last Vichy post Spain (Who was in the allies) had the bright idea of declaring war on me. Even now, a new joint government is being formed in London. As a polish puppet the soviet player asked if I was a puppet. Questions, Paradox Join. In the spirit of the Entente Cordiale, we are proud to welcome you not only as friends, but as Allies. Note that Japan invading China increases WT quite a bit so if you are playing historical, plan for that. That being said, if a player takes control of France and is able to iron out all of the country's internal problems and strengthen the military-industrial complex enough before war breaks out, they are in a good position to repulse and defeat both Germany and Italy and annex both countries, thus ending those threats for good. 25 days ago. By selecting this Design Company it will permanently affect capabilities on all equipment researched while they are hired. This is a community maintained wiki. If Germany goes down it's historic tree, France can opt to mobilize in response to the remilitarization of the Rhineland (taking this decision has a steep cost in political power and stability; note that they can only object if Germany completes the Focus Rhineland; if Germany remilitarizes the Rhineland by going to war, France cannot object). If the UK refuses to back up France, however, France can either opt to oppose Germany itself (which will also trigger a civil war) or it can back down. The battle is lost. PDXCON You can always invade them anyway later, I like to take out Nationalist Spain as Italy right after the civil war sometimes, because nobody protects them. Tho if they hate you they'll be eager instead. If they opt to encourage non-interference, success will give them a stability boost. It is a rather good air force, but it will need to be significantly strengthened before the war starts. It is possible to declare on minors without the allies interfering. At the end of its National Focus tree, however, it will receive the choice between joining the Axis, defecting to the Allies, or starting down on the path towards creating a Latin Entente with Italy, Spain and Portugal. I go after a country then immediatly after I declare war they join the comminterm and now im at war with russia and then I get instantly rekt. [From.GetLeader] approves of our efforts and has accepted our invitation to an alliance. Britain has agreed to merge our two nations into one. France, along with the United Kingdom, guaranteed the independence of Poland prior to its invasion by Germany. Build super heavy tanks and artillery and just blitz thru the magnoit early so England doesnt get involved. Vichy France's zone of jurisdiction is initially limited to the following states within Metropolitan France: In addition to these, Vichy France will also gain control of most of France's colonial empire (Free France will gain control of French Guyana and a handful of other island territories). He became a senior analyst at age 26 at Alfa-Bank, Russia's largest private bank, before a brief spell getting his master's of finance at the University of London. France has a focus to unlock decisions concerning whether to intervene in the Spanish Civil War, or encourage non-interference by other parties. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Tho if they hate you they'll be eager instead. Significant rivers include the river Rhine between France and German Reich, Le Rhne to the southeast, La Seine to the northwest, La Loire which runs through the center, and La Garonne which runs in the southwest. They will, however, also be shouldered with the heavy occupation costs levied by the Germans. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Cookie Notice So how did your first MP game go. Additionally, through the focus "French Union", France can gain cores on any of their colonies in Africa, the Middle East, or Indochina, although the cores gained will differ as the outcome is always random - interestingly, if Morocco, Algeria, or Tunisia was to form Andalusia, then be re-conquered by France, it can still agree to be cored through French Union, which would result in France gaining all cores that Morocco had (hypothetically, the same would be true for Arabia if Lebanon or Syria were to form the nation, be re-conquered by France, and then agree to be cored through French Union), although this would be slightly redundant if Legitimist France was to do so, as Andalusia requires Spain and Portugal to be formed) - note that the Blum-Violette proposal would not grant France cores on Andalusia if formed this method, as said focus is fixed in regards to what cores it grants. Having fortified the border gives France the opportunity to plan and prepare carefully, but it does sacrifice some flexibility in the event of something unexpected. Major reforms are needed to make our economy more competitive in the global scale. Ruling party is Democratic, Has completed focus Buy Time The Habsburg Sub-branch Then took out Canada and America then the rest surrenderd since they were all small countries. Also Hiter is back in charge of The Fourth Reich and re-anshlussed Austria for some reason via the focus. The germany guy was good but the french joined and the game for him was over while i cleaned some pockets that had atleast a dozen divisions in it. #3. With Britain at peace, [From.GetLeader] has agreed to the requests by French political parties for the restoration of a provisional French government. I'm guessing they did their focus ahistorically by chance. If we get Turkey to cap the game would be over. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast . Germany lost i got 2/3 of Austria and then the Allies went to greece and Turkey to kill them. The minute they finished the great purge I declared war since it gives them organization. These numbers represent the base available resources, depending on the trade law a certain amount may be traded away. They have 562 Dewoitine D.520 fighters which is the most 1940 type fighters of any country in the 1939 start. Then WW2 kicked off Poland-Romania did not accept the ultimatum, the Germany player was kind of angry about it but in a civilised manner. Just hold the magniot line and invade france trough Italy or go after Benelux. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If allied with the United Kingdom (which can annex all of its dominions and even the United States to form the Imperial Federation), these two titans can easily become the dominant superpowers of the post-war world order. #1 RagTagPig Aug 19, 2017 @ 8:32pm ohhhh I didnt know that about how theyll join an opposing faction. As for the Free French military, the situation is even more unpredictable than with Vichy France.While Vichy France will usually retain control of at least a portion . on Paradox technology, Legal If you like it, I would very much appreciate if you'd follow me on Spotify. Many of these designs are clearly aimed against an anti-surface role, prioritizing fast, lightly-armored ships with minimal ASW capability and strong scouting capabilities. We must look at the state our country and not accept, but change the outcome of this war. Privacy Policy. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. We don't know what to expect these following months, but we will face it together! Germany lost i got 2/3 of Austria and then the Allies went to greece and Turkey to kill them. Vichy France is created through an event chain which will start if France is in a faction with United Kingdom, at war with Germany and Germany controls the state of Ile de France (16). So Im playing as germany and everytime im about to invade a country i justfiy go to declare war and all of a sudden an allied country is guranteeing independence that fast which means i have to back off or start ww2 or even worse. PDXCON Extending the draft would only exaberate the problem. Whilst few would doubt that Monsieur Daladier has been a fine prime minister, he simply could not contend with the extraordinary set of circumstances in which France has found herself. Subscribe- https://www.youtube.com/c/ManiaGin?sub_confi. What I always hated was me munching up the USSR as Germany only to have them declare war on turkey or iran or something and then those countries insta joined my faction. If you're playing Germany, you can kill fascist countries without any interference from the Allies or Comintern thoughonce world tension is too high, just kill Italy and Spain, and start raising fascist support in other target countries. I guess that just means I cannot attack an commies without taking daddy russia out first. These are choices of ministers and design companies for France. You really can't, you have to fight the allies in like 1940-1941 if you want to not play passive. However, their government is divided, with Communist influences threatening to weaken it further. Our victory in France is nearly complete. However, if Germany has restored the Kaiser, they will instead establish Bourbon France, although unlike what happens if France manually restores the monarchy, this Bourbon France will not have a king in charge (France will also become Bourbon France if they become a puppet of a non-aligned government). A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Plans for the extension of the Maginot Line all the way to the English Channel have been finished, and construction orders placed. I composed the music for the Battle for the Bosphorus pack. Do it earlier, try and stay below 25% if I am not wrong. Soon thereafter, the French front collapsed and Germany begun an offensive southwards capturing Paris completely unopposed on the 14th of June and occupying the northern half of France (with the frontline going from Bordeaux to Grenoble) by the 24th of June. In La Rsistance, Vichy France starts off as independent and is initially not part of any faction. (Note: "GER_has_started_war" is set when Germany declares war on another nation for the first time) When formed, Vichy France starts off with the following national spirit. To the south lies the Pyrenees mountains which separate France from Spain. World tension is too high or the allies have guaranteed the independence of the countries ur friend declared on, so the allies join the war and by extension invite the minors to their faction. As Italy I joined a bunch of European nations to invade Germany and destroy it. As France, occupy Moscow while Napoleon VI is your country leader. Gets event Protests descend into violence, Has completed focus Confirm Eastern Commitments Is not in a faction with United Kingdom. Eventually they couldnt hold up and capitulated I had enough victory points to take most of th esoviet union japan got some of the eastrn side of russia but I got 85% of russia. Charles de Gaulle delivered a radio broadcast urging resistance against the collaborationist Vichy regime. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Hi, let me introduce myself! If Poland chooses to go Democratic, it has the choice to join the Allies or form a new faction with France. Their children go hungry and even though [Root.GetCommunistParty] are urging them to continue the strike, they do not possess the resources to continue. If you spot a mistake then you are welcome to fix it. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. On the other hand, we don't exactly have the means to fight them on this issue. Note that doing so may result in the UK guaranteeing them, so it's recommended that either the UK also be player-controlled, or the USSR have caused as little tension as possible (justifying on the Dutch East Indies can also help lower the tension). After that you probably improve relations and stuff and sooner or later if they dont invite you during peace you should be able to join if theyre at war 1 More posts you may like r/hoi4 Join 3 days ago Hoi4s total War problem 208 37 r/hoi4 Join 13 days ago An alternative (albeit untested) way to form the EU is to allow Hungary to become a major power and then occupy and hold the territories needed before the peace deal. For more information, please see our Government type: Democratic, Conservative. In 1936, its navy is its strongest asset, with an average-at-best land army and modest colonial empire. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Gains ownership of and control over the following states if owned by the country getting the event: Fired for the country that meets the requirements: If the following is true on declaration of war: Random other country that originates from, Resets the appearance of the country to the default, Every state that is national territory of both, Sets ownership of and control over the state to, Every unit leader that has the unit leader flag, Has at least 70% of progress towards being capitulated. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. While still a major industrialized country, France has been left behind in terms of concentration of production capabilities. The Panzers then drovewithout waiting for infantry to secure their supply linesthrough France to the English Channel, surrounding the bulk of the Allied forces which had been sent to Belgium's border with Germany aiming to deny them room for mobile warfare and overconfident that their main thrust would be through Belgium as in WWI's Schlieffen Plan. Then strangely, the Italy player joined the Allies too and the polish, hungarians the British and their puppets started gangbanging Germany. To avoid this case, you need to justify at a time when the allies cannot guarantee your target. France joins allies when they shouldn't.why? Edit: Feel free to correct me if I am wrong on anything. The game is mostly historical so far - Poland, France, and Norway have fallen. However, this has made it difficult for companies to find skilled workers, and the military finds it hard to compete with the labor market for recruits. France is quite possibly the best candidate to form the European Union as if staying democratic, it can expect to end up in a defensive war against both Germany and Italy, allowing both countries to be annexed in a single peace treaty. The British government is unwilling to antagonize Germany further, and will not jeopardize the current peace. De Gaulle effectively assumes leadership of the Free French Forces and continues the fight against the Germans. Threatened with annihilation, the British evacuated their expeditionary forces and what Allied units they could until Dunkirk fell. This thread is archived . Vichy France will start off with the following economy laws: Vichy France will also retain whatever industry and resources that end up within its zone of jurisdiction (the rest will end up under German occupation). If playing on multiplayer with a player-controlled Soviet Union, one method is to have them join the war and have them declare on the Benelux countries - as this will drag them into the Axis, they can be taken into the peace deal. 5 glamscum 5 yr. ago Requires National Focus, Can justify wargoals against a country that have not generated world tension, DD battery II, AA I, TT I, TT II, DC I, Light Engine III, 2xCL I batteries, TT I, scout plane I, no armor, 2xCL II batteries, 2xAA I, mines, no armor, 2xAA I, 2xCL II batteries, scout plane I, CL armor I, 2xCA I battery, AA I, TT I, scout plane I, CA Armor I, 2xCA I batteries, 2x AA I, scout plane I, CA Armor I, 2xBB I batteries, 2x AA I, 2xSecondary I, Scout Plane 1, BC Armor II, 2xBB I batteries, 1xAA I, 3xSecondary I, BB Armor I, 2xBB I batteries, 2xAA I, 2xSecondary I, BB Armor I, 2xBB II batteries, 2xAA I, scout plane II, 2xSecondary II, BB Armor II. It also allows Poland to gain colonial holdings in Liberia or Madagascar. As with her tanks, France begins the game with modern naval technology, such as 1936 BB, DD and SS techs and two unique designs: La Fantasque, a destroyer model with tier 3 (1940) engines, and the Surcouf Class submarine with 3 custom slots. This page was last edited on 28 February 2023, at 15:45. Once Italy falls, be sure to quickly capitulate Germany before the Allies are able to do that. are there anyways to stop france from joining the allies . Yes, you can actually join Allies as any nations with either dem/fas/com/non-align but World Tension is need to be high enough > 50% and you are at war with their enemy, for example Fascist/Communist France can join Allies if they are fighting Germany. Note that generic names are not listed. If the capital is in neither of the states Ile de France (16) or New Caledonia (635) and is controlling New Caledonia (635): Changes the capital state to New Caledonia (635), Creates a dynamic country originating from. The French government has asked for an armistice, and our diplomats have prepared terms which they have agreed to. If the allies are already at war, but not against you, the nations you attack are likely to try and join them but depending one who you play and what's your relation with the allies, they may be reluctant to join the war, especially if you're co-belligerent. 'History has shown how much can be accomplished when our great nations stand side by side. Similarly, France can act differently in response to German demands for Sudetenland than the UK; if the UK agrees to let Germany have the Sudetenland, the French can either agree with the UK, which will also cancel their guarantee on Yugoslavia, or refuse to go along with the UK and form a faction with Czechoslovakia. Questions, Paradox These are the Military Staff candidates for appointment in France. In a few weeks, Japan will declare war on the Philippines and I will be dragged into the war in Asia. . 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