And though this is something that cannot be proved statistically, it is an opinion shared by men who have years of combat experience. Is UTM better or more accurate than latitude/longitude? NVA 324th B Division Hill1028 NE. Bde. is located at BR477435, which is actually BR 477-435. 9 Jan. 68 : C-Btry. Copy and paste the Google Map Coordinates into the location bar on Google Maps. for 1/12th Task Force. con thien 68 1/61 5th inf. FA Locations & Area of Operations (AO). [7] South of 80S, UPS South (Universal Polar Stereographic) is used instead of a UTM projection. I respect you for your service. To see which maps are available for sale(or free digital download), go to the onlineUSGS Store: The USGS doesnot have a complete set of NGA 1:50,000 maps for the United States. weve re-drawn the original using grid coordinates. Military Map Reading A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States. Thout on 24 Apr. detonated hitting a command detonated land mine 1030hrs. Dec. 68 to late Jan. 69: C-btry. 230-376 PLEI GAO THONG 7km SSW Camp Enari 4th DIV ORLL, ZA displaces to LZ Joan YA 845-252 Duc Co. GS 1/35th In the polar regions, there is only one version of the lettering scheme.[7]. I served as the commander of the 19th Ordnance Company (DAS) in Nha Trang Vietnam from 1965 to 1966. 204-214 LZ OUTRIDER also ZA 200-170 26km SSW Pleiku, ZA 3rd Tactical Fighter Wing Division 3rd Brigade of 4th Infantry Division 196th and 198th Light Infantry Brigades 11th Infantry Brigade 3rd Brigade of 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile) also attached SOUTH VIETNAM FORCES: 1st Division "Davo" Holdorf. Uplift. Superficially, that appraisal seemed to be belied recently as officials in Washington disclosed figures showing total enemy strength in Vietnam to be 378,000. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. If the Israelis had started to push into Cairo, threats had been made by the Russians to use their nukes to stop the Israelis. Again, imagine three digits wide. I was with VNAF 632nd CSG at airfield Binh Thuy with the Mekong River just outside my hooch. Redleg Earl Thomas Pearson is disintegrated by fire when a spark hits the powder is a great book that gives Plus. The MGRS is derived from the Universal Transverse Mercator (UTM) grid system and the Universal Polar Stereographic (UPS) grid system, but uses a different labeling convention. To give the position of Honolulu with 100km resolution, we write 4QFJ. Notice July to Aug. 68 : C-Btry. 11th Infantry Brigade But U.S. military men nonetheless argue that the performance of VC units in the delta is not what it used to be. IV Corps was south), Provinces and Cities in South Vietnam: During the first part of that tour (66-67) he was a door gunner on Westmorelands chopperwherever that was. Error in input. Feb. 69. displaced to LZ Linda BR 935-467. Elements of 101st Airborne Division, SOUTH VIETNAM FORCES: On computers without a GPS chip, Latitude and Longitude are guesstimated by Google based on your IP address and the known locations of the nearest WIFI access points and their addresses. Then give each section an amount or value of 100 As it has become increasingly difficult for the Communists to recruit troops in the south, North Vietnam has felt obliged to commit more and more of its men to the war. We were there in 1968. Oh yes we had 4 consective nights of B-52 strikes in October 71. Sections can be further subdivided Interpreting the colored lines, areas, and other symbols is the first step in using topographic maps. Follow the RED line from the LZ Vietnam 1:50,000 Interactive Map Tables linking to sheets Contact Information Map Library Main Library Building Michigan State University 366 W. Circle Drive, Room E240 East Lansing, MI 48824 Phone: (517) 884-6467 Title: Vietnam. days, in support of 1/12, 22 Apr.68 : C-Btry. Republic of Korea 1st Tiger DIV BR/BQ/CR/CQ Grids 61st Arty Binh Khe. Go to Google My Maps, enter the LAT/LONG given by the calculation, and Google will drop a pin! Material on this site is provided for education, criticism, commentary, cultural reporting, entertainment, historical reference, and news reporting/analysis. The Military Grid Reference System topo maps. 820-095 LZ MARY Ia Drang Valley, 1st battle 3 Nov. 65, YA The Russians had gotten concerned about Israel approaching Cairo and were afraid that they were going to capture it. Center, CP For example, individual houses may be shown as small black squares. ( - ) displaced to LZ For larger buildings, the actual shapes are mapped. If the grid zone or 100,000-meter square are clear from context, they can be dropped, and only the numerical location is specified. Vietnam Topographic Maps 1:50,000 U.S. Army Map Service, Series L7014 Clickable Index Map A Luoi(topographic) Sheet 6441-4, 1:50,000 U.S. Army Map Service (9.4MB) [GeoPDF] A Ro(topographic) Sheet 6440-2, 1:50,000 U.S. Army Map Service (3.0MB) [GeoPDF] A Sap(topographic) Sheet 6441-2, 1:50,000 U.S. Army Map Service (3.0MB) [GeoPDF] Without going into detail, just think of them as normal 100 kilometer 29 Apr. General Support ) ( - ) as a spilt Battery to 1st Air Cav., and the This truncation can put them on the wrong side of a latitude zone boundary, causing the truncated MGRS string to be considered invalid. Those range from for instance, ZA000-??? In the 173D the supply people kept the majority of their gear locked away in metal boxes called conex steel transport boxes so they could be ready to move 24/7/365. 35th Tactical Fighter Wing 130-307 BASE 202 NVA/ VC Valley Staging Area 40 km WSW AnKhe, 1st Heres how to party like its 1969, Print Color Fun: Free coloring pages & more fun for kids, Quotes Quotes Quotes: 1000s of clever & inspiring quotations, FindersFree.com: Find answers to lifes little questions. LZs, cities, hamlets and roads using grid locations, we suggest Mike Kelleys 3rd Brigade of 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile) also attached, SOUTH VIETNAM FORCES: 80-07 to 90-07 IA DRANG VALLEY N. to S. YA FA Batteries May 1968 - May 1969, Major US Army Unit farther East. DONNA DAVIS-PRUSIK JUST MAYBE YOUR HUSBAND SPENT MORE THAN ONE TOUR OVER THERE? & BQ meet at the large black dot at the city of Plei Kanong. Hwy 14, firing numerous missions, Hip-Shoot style over a period of a few endobj Elements of 173rd Airborne Brigade 4 Sept. 67 : C-Btry. <>/ExtGState<>/XObject<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/Annots[ 11 0 R 12 0 R] /MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>> We are also looking for donations of Vietnam U.S. military grid maps used in 1969. 109-271 CATECKA TEA PLANTATION 5km W. inter/sect QLs 14 & 19W, ZA General Westmoreland was stationed at USARV headquarters at Tan Son Nhut and in early 1967 moved to Long Bien about 20 miles up highway 1 to the north. NGA Guidance for the Military Grid Reference System (MGRS). 872-958 BONG SON on QL1 75km NNW Qui Nhon VC Valley: 90-93, BR ( - ) two 8-inch guns join C/7/17. The MGRS is used as geocode for the entire Earth. All of these maps are oversized (i.e. English. FA at W. edge Hosp. 109-273 LZ OASIS 3rd BN, 4th INF DIV AO Forward Fire Base, ZA If you want a great book for finding YOUR Cobra Gun-ships Some of the grid coordinates of the area of operations we are looking for are: 425-074, 088-475, 095-477, 573-965, 572-963, 572-960 and 568-958. 2nd Brigade of 4th Infantry Division ClickAmericana.com is made with and by Synchronista LLC 2011-2022. 22nd Division ISE Headquarters for Navy River Corps Patrol Boats, Seal Teams, Junk Forces; Army Special Forces, VIETNAM FORCES: pool hooch and mess hall. 25th Infantry Division, SOUTH VIETNAM FORCES: Vietnam [$39.95 at amazon.com] LZ Pony. Map torn at edges and fold-lines. Full scale Americanengagements started in November 1965 with the Battle of Ia Drang and ended with the Paris Peace Accords signing in January 1973. In which case, each side is equal to the number of 1000. The identification consists of a column letter (AZ, omitting I and O) followed by a row letter (AV, omitting I and O). by the values given within the grid. 79, Southern Vietnam and the South China Sea: Offical Standard Names, Gazetteer No. grid to start the location method. I was stationed in the 19th Combat Engineers during 1966 to 1967. North Vietnam Map. Mobile 100 - 25 June 1954, BR Please provide as much detail with the area you are looking for and we will find it for you. Elements of 25th Infantry Division LZ NORTH ENGLISH Bong Son N. of LZ ENGLISH, BR For example, at the boundary between grid zones 1P and 1Q, we find a 100,000-meter square BT, of which about two thirds is south of latitude 16 and therefore in grid zone 1P, while one third is north of 16 and therefore in 1Q. At least, this is possible if the precision of the grid reference is enough to place the denoted area completely inside either 1P or 1Q. General admission - $10.00 We departed Fort Ord, California, in June 1965, traveling by ship, and arrived in Nha Trang in July 1965. By Dave Locations - Summer 1969, Provinces 00-15 CAM RANH BAY NVA 368th B Regiment 12th Tactical Fighter Wing Thanks for any help you can give me. AO ( also: BR82-65 ), BR So, we need to find out the higher level zone that YD is within and add it to the beginning of the coordinate. fr, 12201 Sunrise Valley Drive Reston, VA 20192, Region 2: South Atlantic-Gulf (Includes Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands), Region 12: Pacific Islands (American Samoa, Hawaii, Guam, Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands). Most The government claims to control more than 50 percent of the 6.5 million people in the watery region, but in many areas its grip is tenuous. endobj FORCES: HOSPITAL, 4th ID AO, Pleiku AF Base 11/66-12/70, CR While the map is open you can now display data from *any* public-facing (i.e. 10:00 am to 4:00 pm w/a number lower than 7. 1300 Bed, 44th Med. 9th Division USNG Map with 6 x 8 Degree Grid Zone Designators. Web application supports Military Grids MGRS, UTM and BNG. 936-271 CAV. believed the Red Team Troop C, 7/17, Dec. 68 to late Jan. 69: C-btry. Arty. % Hwy 1 - Duc Pho South to Tuy Hoa, Upper UTM zones are numbered consecutively beginning with Zone 1, which includes the westernmost point of Alaska, and progress eastward to Zone 19, which includes Maine. coordinate of BR477. Memberships include: Stay up-to-date with the Museum & Library. Service Battery. Timothy J. Haslett, and Figures apart, most U.S. commanders in the field are convinced that there has been a marked decline in the past few months in the combat effectiveness of enemy troops. Still fighting the final battle with a VA disability and several afflictions from Agent Orange, that gift that keeps on giving. The USGS has alimitednumber of 1:50,000-scale maps available for the United States. Do US Topos and The National Map have a layer that shows the Public Land Survey System (PLSS)? In addition, weve 797-348 ARTILLERY HILL in Camp Enari, Pleiku, AR A value lower than .477 in the first three Secure .gov websites use HTTPS Corps II matter what size map youre using, imagine each side of the square grid as Seniors, students, and teachers with valid IDs -$8.00Members,children under 12, First Responders, and Active Military - FREE Corps IV Using this map, explore a few of the key events that occurred from 1954 to 1975 as the war in Vietnam expanded. 67 : C-Btry. at Phu Cat w/Unit to set up base-camp, S. to Plei Me. July/Aug. The military uses their own implementation of the UTM system, called the. 857-535 LZ PLEI DJERENG Old C/7/15th 7/68 36km NW Pleiku 5th SP area, likewise the ZB and AS grids to the north in the Kontum area. Note that different basemaps let you zoom in different amounts. With the right maps and info, 88-99 LZ GRAY QL14 50km SSE Pleiku named: They define and locate natural and were 43 Provinces and Your email address will not be published. Townships are subdivided into 36 one-mile-square sections. 69. US Army Unit Locations NVA 3rd Division 114-275 LZ OASIS AF/THANH AN, Tuttle AF: ZA104-274 - Le Thanh: 227-840 LZ MARY LOU ZA 027-934: LZ BASS 24km WNW Kontum, ZA Elements of 9th Infantry Division While in convoy 834-178 LZ VERA 8km SE. 935-188 FIRE BASE 6 Hill 1001 7km NW Hill 1338, ZB This map with a MGRS grid will work in most browsers on most devices including cell phones. to be LZ Diamondhead. to ZA299-??? 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment We can now enter it into the MGRS / USNG to Latitude and Longitude calculator. parked at LZ Oasis cleared the area minutes latter via rocket/mini-gun fire, to Yes. %PDF-1.5 that had a generator belt come off. The PLSS typically divides land into 6-mile-square townships. Listed in the lower left corner of the map are South Vietnamese military and government installations, and, on the right, are the locations of "Properties used by the U.S. Government Hue, Vietnam." The list of American properties is faded, as seen below. 7/15th our large on-site page compiled by Dan Gillotti -. 918-750 ), BR This is to handle an issue raised by some F-16 pilots, who truncate MGRS strings that they receive from the Army. 470-480 CAMP RADCLIFF AnKhe Golf Course QL19E 60km NW Qui Nhon, BR The JPG/PNG files can show almost any data that GISsurfer can display. A Unreal. Thats pretty much the story of the 173D as I know of it. completes mission at 613-607 LZ HARDTIMES Vinh Thang Valley 20km SE camp Radcliff 7/15th FA, BR Click on the green Apply Filters button near the top of the page. Valley. Vietnam. Ground radar units 924-752 LZ UPLIFT QL1 ran thru, 12km SSE Bong Son HHB/7/15th FA FORCES: 97, Vietnam Center and Sam Johnson Vietnam Archive, 2023 Texas Tech University, 2023 Vietnam Center and Sam Johnson Vietnam Archive. Estimate direct distances on a map grid. We must begin, of course, with a source for a given MGRS coordinate from the Vietnam War. I was radio teletype 1st Signal Brigade, Company A, 52nd Signal Battion in Can Tho and on the Island of Phu Quoc (which was under dispute between Cambodia and South Vietnam of who owned it) 68 69. The problem is not with the map but rather because the war in Viet Nam required the units to always be mobile. An Phuoc Tuy, Long An, Gia Dinh, Vung Tau, Saigon, IV Corps It's no wonder then that the "Eastertide The Public Land Survey System (PLSS) is a way of subdividing and describing land in the United States. Provinces and Cities in South Vietnam Simplified Military Map Reading "Where We Were" 4/68 to 4/69 C-Btry, 7/15th FA There were 43 Provinces and 4 Military Regions (MR) in South Vietnam during the Vietnam War (Note: I Corps was north and IV Corps was south) Provinces and Cities in South Vietnam: Injured: FDC Sgt. land mine blows in between a 5-ton truck pushing and an FDC track vehicle For a refresher in the use of the Military Grid Reference System click here MGRS. 92-50 PHU CAT 32km N Qui Nhon Service-Btry/7/15th and left in december 1968 to serve with australians up north for 30 days and left V.N. 202-341 to 351 CATECKA PLEIKU AIRFIELD 10-12km NE Oasis AF, ZA reflects a more exact location of all LZs. The first part of an MGRS coordinate is the grid-zone designation. that had a generator belt come off. HILL also YA 922-270 8km ENE Duc Co AF, 37km WSW Pleiku. Long, An Giang, Kion Giang, Chunong Thion, Phong Dinh, Ba Xuyen, An Xuyen, Duc Liou, LZ 998-217 Tigers Spotted 1-3/69 1/35th Daily Log. Over 58,000 US service members died in the war. Anyone can use the following 'live' GISsurfer map to help learn about Military Grid Reference Sysytem (MGRS) coordinates. Dave Holdorf. Since the letters A, B, Y, and Z are not used for any latitude bands of UTM, their presence in an MGRS coordinate, with the omission of a zone number, indicates that the coordinates are in the UPS system. Grids: ESE Pleiku, most due south off QL14, AQ believed the Red Team Troop C, 7/17th Air Cav. Each UTM zone is divided into 100,000 meter squares, so that their corners have UTM-coordinates that are multiples of 100,000 meters. Grid is W. of Pleiku, half way to Cambodian Border, N. to just past Polei Kleng, The Map Collection contains over 1500 maps on Vietnam, Indochina, and Southeast Asia. Vietnam, that are ONLY 20 to 30 kilometers in width! This has been controversial in the past, since the oldest specification, TM8358.1,[1] used rounding, as did GEOTRANS[4] before version 3.0. Aware as they are of the considerable problems remaining in each corps area, most senior U.S. officers profess confidence about over-all military prospects. Imagine the width of that zone as (3) three digits wide vs 10 as damaged guns from B/1/92nd FA which had extensive damage and Division Then from that location, move up, or DUE NORTH for a 207-345 THE STADIUM Along QL19B 6km WSW intersect, ZA Sign up for our bi-weekly newsletter. to find that LZ or exact location you were in? NVA 3rd Division Tea Plant. days, in support of 1/12th Task forcethen displaced to Ban Me The map as shown above is vague and lacks a lot of accuracy. The northmost latitude band, X, is 12 high. The Second three numbers, North to South coordinates, are the same as all and Cities in South Vietnam, Where We Were I am now retired, and a resident at the Illinois Veterans Home in Quincy, Illinois. When changing precision levels, it is important to truncate rather than round the easting and northing values to ensure the more precise polygon will remain within the boundaries of the less precise polygon. Jupiter BR 616-608, and returned to Binh Khe on 1 Dec. 67. Thus the coordinates 16SGL08 would locate a point as shown in Figure 4-20. with the rest of the unit. FAQ | Contact, Also see The UTM system consists of 60 zones, each 6-degrees of longitude in width. displaces to LZ Diamondhead. The Mafia had an axe to grind because JFKs brother, Bobby, who was the U.S. AG had been on the Mafias case from day one of the Kennedy administration, and they were eager to assist. ZA10-27, ZA In densely built-up areas, most individual buildings are omitted and an area tint is shown. Chicago, IL 60603 a. It may be helpful to read . Most General Support ) ( - ) as a spilt Battery to 1st Air Cav., and the 363-457 LZ SCHUELER On QL19E 13km W. AnKhe B/C/7/15th FA 4-10/71, BR 27 Mar. "Davo" Holdorf. You can make a scale for your Holdorf. <> Elements of 9th Infantry Division If you liked this article, please share it! casualties in two days of fighting. the normal longitude or latitude lines that normally appear on maps. Name to the RED DOT, thats the exact location as per grid numbers. AMS 1:50000 Maps in Vietnam Archive Map Collection, Cambodia: Official Standard Names, Gazetteer No. At zone 4, the column letters start over from A, and so on around the world. to 27-48 LZ BUFFALO 5km E. MangYang Pass, 3km During ), BR When the term 'grid square' is used, it can refer to a square with a side length of 10km (6mi), 1km, 100m (328ft), 10m or 1m, depending on the precision of the coordinates provided. For example, when describing the entire square BT, should it be called 1PBT or 1QBT? were installed previously. The UTM system consists of 60 zones, each 6-degrees of longitude in width. Two Rocket Artillery Battalions Indochina 1886 3. Non-copyrighted maps can also be downloaded in a variety of sizes and formats. If you know MGRS then you already know USNG. Plei Djereng YA 85-45. let's find the exact location of An Khe using a Military Grid over-lay. - Binh Tuy, Long Khanh, Phou Long, Binh Long, Dinh Duong, Tay Ninh, Hay Hghia, Bien Hao, at LZ Oasis. Map. ZA The 1st and 3rd Battalions were stationed at L.Z. 32km S Nha Trang, Major US Installation, CP We were the 362nd Signal Co. operating a Strat Com Tropo repeater site on Lang Bian mountain out of Da Lat in the Central Highlands. Open: Tues - Sat For more information, please visit our FAQ or Terms of Use. charge he was carrying to the gun pit. North of 84N, UPS North is used, and the west half-circle is Y, the east one is Z; see figure 4. Approx. 230-354 Camp St. Barbara 3km E. Catecka AF, if 230-534: QL14 S. Pleiku, ZA by Dave Davo (Last years official figure was 280,000.). Mash unit at LZ Oasis, then to 71st during the Vietnam War, (Note: I Corps was north and Click on+VIEW FILTERSto toggle on additional filters. Data Download Sites Sites used by Geospatial Engineers to support SSGF data creation for. Plus. The lower the input precision, the more "slop" is allowed in the final check on the latitude zone letter. 3 Mar. The MAC-V commander reported directly to the President of the United States. Index to Maps of East Asia and North Pacific 1:4,350,000 1203 Index to Maps of USSR 1:4,000,000 1204 Index to World Outline Maps - Area 1:10,000,000 1:20,000,000 1304W Index to World Road Maps 1:1,000,000 1306 Index to East Asia Road Map 1:1,1250,000 1308 Index to Middle East Briefing Map 1:1,500,000 1404 Index to Maps of World 2201 460-245 Le Thanh Dist. MAP - 83-67 - SAIGON - BIEN HOA - DONG NAI RIVER - 1971 ORPHANAGE - Vietnam War $127.99 Was: $159.99 $4.99 shipping Battle of Ho Bo Woods Vietnam map 173d Air Trang Bang DO DAU HA Air Cav 6231 II $39.99 $4.00 shipping PLEIKU Vietnam map Special Forces Camp OASIS-TUTTLE AIRFIELD Catecka 6536 I $29.99 $4.00 shipping W122. Locate a point using the US Army Military Grid Reference System (MGRS), https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Military_Grid_Reference_System&oldid=1140475364, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles with broken or outdated citations from March 2022, All articles with broken or outdated citations, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, 4Q .GZD only, precision level 6 8 (in most cases), 4Q FJ .GZD and 100km Grid Square ID, precision level 100km, 4Q FJ 1 6 precision level 10km, 4Q FJ 12 67 .precision level 1km, 4Q FJ 123 678 ..precision level 100m, 4Q FJ 1234 6789 precision level 10m, 4Q FJ 12345 67890 .precision level 1m. If every position being located is within the same grid zone, only the 100,000-meter square and numerical location are specified. So encouraged is General Westmoreland that he is about to launch into what he terms Phase Three of the war. If every position being located is within the same grid zone and 100,000-meter square, only the numerical location is specified. However, you still use the same system to figure out Where You Were! How can you forget the Vietnamese Ranger Groups? As the recent battles of Loc Ninh, Bu Dop and Dak To proved, the Communists are still able to mount major actions that effectively tie up thousands of U.S. troops who otherwise could be used in search-and-destroy operations or the pacification program. using Grid Line Coordinates, and go from there.

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